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	<title>Comments on: A computer scientist, a mathematician and an engineer&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 07:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;2.5 years and I only just noticed I&#039;d been quoted above, despite reading this article before ;-) The extract from my email about &quot;optional&quot; libraries was a merely a question/suggestion, and thus written with no authority at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2.5 years and I only just noticed I&#8217;d been quoted above, despite reading this article before <img src='http://www.luanova.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  The extract from my email about &#8220;optional&#8221; libraries was a merely a question/suggestion, and thus written with no authority at all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nathany</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On the mailing list Duck wrote:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Extend &quot;core and auxiliary&quot; libraries to &quot;core, auxiliary and optional.&quot; Core and aux to be ANSI-C _only_ (move shared library loading to optional). Include a range of popular (if not 100% portable) but PUC-endorsed libs in &quot;optional.&quot; Start with luasocket and consider luathread.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure what authority he wrote that with, or if it was just a suggestion. I guess we won&#039;t know what will be in 5.2 until it comes out :-).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &quot;mechanisms, not policies&quot; mantra avoids tough decisions, of which concurrency brings many. A standard way to serialize data would be a step in the right direction, but there are many ways to do that as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For now, it&#039;s certainly nice that the Programming in Lua book has examples of threading. I haven&#039;t yet checked out LuaLanes, but it has me interested, at a conceptual level.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the mailing list Duck wrote:</p>

<blockquote>Extend &#8220;core and auxiliary&#8221; libraries to &#8220;core, auxiliary and optional.&#8221; Core and aux to be ANSI-C _only_ (move shared library loading to optional). Include a range of popular (if not 100% portable) but PUC-endorsed libs in &#8220;optional.&#8221; Start with luasocket and consider luathread.</blockquote>

<p>I&#8217;m not sure what authority he wrote that with, or if it was just a suggestion. I guess we won&#8217;t know what will be in 5.2 until it comes out <img src='http://www.luanova.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>

<p>The &#8220;mechanisms, not policies&#8221; mantra avoids tough decisions, of which concurrency brings many. A standard way to serialize data would be a step in the right direction, but there are many ways to do that as well.</p>

<p>For now, it&#8217;s certainly nice that the Programming in Lua book has examples of threading. I haven&#8217;t yet checked out LuaLanes, but it has me interested, at a conceptual level.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Javier Guerra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javier Guerra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Lua 5.2 may yet see an optional library with OS-specific threading support.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;as much as i&#039;d love to see this; i still haven&#039;t seen any hit about that possibility.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;maybe by the &quot;mechanisms, not policies&quot; mantra could there be an way to create a value reference from one Lua State to another?  If that was possible, a LuaLane could &#039;publish&#039; a value to be used from another Lane, with locking only on these cross-state accesses, not ALL accesses, like LuaThreads.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--
Javier&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lua 5.2 may yet see an optional library with OS-specific threading support.&#8221;</p>

<p>as much as i&#8217;d love to see this; i still haven&#8217;t seen any hit about that possibility.</p>

<p>maybe by the &#8220;mechanisms, not policies&#8221; mantra could there be an way to create a value reference from one Lua State to another?  If that was possible, a LuaLane could &#8216;publish&#8217; a value to be used from another Lane, with locking only on these cross-state accesses, not ALL accesses, like LuaThreads.</p>

<p>&#8211;
Javier</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dang. By the post title, I thought you were going to tell a good geeky joke. I guess I&#039;ll go back to reading Dilbert now...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang. By the post title, I thought you were going to tell a good geeky joke. I guess I&#8217;ll go back to reading Dilbert now&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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